Hybrid LLMs pair softmax attention with linear-attention layers such as Gated DeltaNet (GDN), whose recurrent state summarizes the context in fixed size. Early community 4-bit quantizations of Qwen3.8-27B (48 GDN layers, 16 attention layers) left the GDN block in 8- or 16-bit precision -- especially its decay and write-strength gates -- on the intuition that errors in a recurrence accumulate over long contexts. We test that intuition by building Minima: NVFP4 W4A4 on all 496 linear layers, GDN included. Across perplexity at 4K/32K, MMLU-Pro, GSM8K, AIME'25, GPQA-Diamond, LiveCodeBench, and RULER retrieval to 64K, Minima matches BF16 within seed noise (5-task average -0.52) while being the smallest (17.5 GiB) and fastest-prefill (+14-19%) recipe we compare, and its 32K perplexity gap shrinks with position. A four-part mechanism study explains why: (i) NVFP4's 16-element block scaling localizes the residual stream's extreme outliers, equalizing activation error across layer roles; (ii) the supposedly fragile gate projections are the least sensitive -- softplus/exponential and sigmoid parameterizations compress ~11% GEMM error to ~2% output error; (iii) the delta-rule recurrence holds injected noise at a flat plateau over 32K tokens and forgets a state impulse within hundreds of steps, because each write overwrites the state along the current key direction; (iv) the per-token quantization cost washes out with context instead of compounding. We also repair a global-scale mismatch that arises when per-module-calibrated NVFP4 checkpoints are served by kernels that fuse those modules into one GEMM, and show calibrated FP8 KV-cache scales are performance-free. The result: a practical recipe -- quantize everything, ship KV scales -- and a mechanistic account of why the recurrent half of a hybrid LLM is the easy half to quantize. Checkpoint: https://huggingface.co/minima-ai/mnma_qwen3.8_27b_nvfp4
Most competitive 4-bit LLM research pipelines now open the same way: apply a linear, function-preserving transform (rotation, scaling, permutation, non-orthogonal affine) so the outlier mass sits more favorably against the group scales, and only then round. Yet we are aware of no survey dedicated to this transform stage, and its literature is quietly re-deriving an older theory. We identify and formalize the principle that organizes it, the Great Inversion: allocation-flexible coding rewards energy concentration, whereas the grouped shared-scale quantization a deployed matrix instruction performs rewards within-group flattening. Classical transform coding (1963: decorrelate, allocate bits, quantize) spends different bits per coordinate at a fixed total rate; for a Gaussian source at high rate the Karhunen-Loeve transform's concentration minimizes distortion. A deployed operand tile instead carries one absolute-maximum scale per group and equal bits everywhere, with no allocation; on a uniform grid that objective rewards flattening, approached by Hadamard incoherence. We prove that opposition under within-group majorization: the prescriptions point in opposite directions, each backed by a proof against its own objective, and for a generic spectrum no optimality guarantee transfers. A second axis is the number format: the non-uniform FP4 grid makes flattening buy less, MXFP4's power-of-two block scale still rewards a rotation confined to that block, and NVFP4's mantissa-carrying scale largely removes that pull, so the target pole depends jointly on allocation regime and format. We survey 200 works to a June 2026 cutoff; classify 43 transform methods by structure, data-awareness, searched-versus-constructed, and runtime cost; record, where reported, how they compose with GPTQ rounding; distill a first-choice guide by deployment regime; and close with the open problems it exposes.
Bakbergen Ryskulov, Iker García-Ferrero, David Montero +5cs.CL cs.AI cs.LG cs.PF
Serving large language models cheaply increasingly means shipping models that are both structurally compressed to a fraction of their parameters and quantized to 4 bits. Together these steps degrade reasoning, mathematics, coding, and long-context behavior enough to require a recovery, or healing, stage before deployment. The default recipe, quantization-aware training (QAT), re-fits the compressed, quantized model to hard labels; in our pipeline it converged slowly and collapsed past its peak. We adopted Quantization-Aware Healing (QAH) instead. Because a structurally compressed model is never independently trained at full precision, its bfloat16 checkpoint is a distillation-recovered approximation of the original; QAH distills the 4-bit student directly from the original, uncompressed model. On a GPT-OSS 120B to 60B to MXFP4 pipeline, the QAH student matches or beats its bfloat16 source on 7 of 9 benchmarks at roughly 4 times less weight memory and half the teacher's parameter count, and is released open-weight as Hypernova-60B. Against a matched QAT baseline it reaches a comparable peak about 7 times faster and stays stable under continued training, without hand-tuned early stopping. We also report deployment lessons, including a large, reproducible quality gap between distributed-training backends. Our aim is a recipe deployable without a multi-week hyper-parameter search.
Rotation-based post-training quantisation commonly applies an orthogonal transform across an entire attention head to reduce outlier-induced error. RoPE instead partitions each head into two-dimensional frequency pairs, raising the question of whether a transform respecting this decomposition can improve on full-head mixing. Prior work has established the per-pair rotations that commute with RoPE. We state the converse result that, for distinct frequencies, no other single-head orthogonal map commutes with RoPE. For the head-shared parameterisation used in our experiments, we then derive the rotation angle that minimises the larger channel variance under a pooled-covariance, position-averaged surrogate and verify that the implementation attains its analytic minimum. The evaluated head-shared pairwise configuration does not improve accuracy in the tested dynamic W4A4KV4 setting. Across four checkpoints, replacing the full-head Hadamard with this configuration increases perplexity at both short and long context lengths. Composing the pairwise rotation with the Hadamard satisfies the selected $\pm0.05$-PPL interval criterion under the default estimator. Estimating the shared angle from K alone improves pairwise-only on every checkpoint but does not close its gap to full-head mixing. The analytic objective controls a position-averaged second moment of a pooled calibration covariance, whereas the dynamic quantiser sets its step from a tokenwise group range. The pairwise transform also has only two-channel mixing support. Along a controlled interpolation from two-channel to full-head mixing, K range, relative quantisation error, and perplexity degradation decrease as support increases. These results show that optimality for a structured surrogate need not reduce quantisation error when the surrogate and mixing support are misaligned with the quantiser's scale-setting statistic.
Hei Yi Mak, Shadan Golestan, Hoang Le +10cs.LG cs.AI
We present, to our knowledge, the first end-to-end FP4 RL post-training, in which both the rollout and training policies, including their forward and backward passes, operate at 4-bit precision. A systematic study reveals that the dominant source of degradation in FP4 RL is not training-side quantization error but rollout activation quantization: outliers stretch the dynamic range so far that a large number of activation values underflow to zero under FP4. Counterintuitively, restoring the training policy to higher precision while keeping the rollout in FP4 makes accuracy worse than full FP4 baseline, exposing rollout-training mismatch as the principal failure mode and ruling out standard pretraining-style fixes. We address this with Rollout Residual Quantization (Rollout-ResQ): a single residual correction term constrained to a hardware-friendly sparsity pattern, added only to the FP4 rollout matmul -- a lightweight correction that recovers most of the precision lost to outlier-driven underflow without inflating the rollout's compute footprint. On Qwen2.5-3B and Qwen2.5-Math-7B, Rollout-ResQ paired with the HiFloat4 (HiF4) format -- whose three-level hierarchical scaling preserves resolution under FP4's tight 4-bit budget -- closes the accuracy gap to BF16 from 4.9% to 1.1%, bringing fully quantized FP4 RL within striking distance of full precision. Applied to the open-standard MXFP4, the same recipe narrows the gap from 13.6% to 5.3%, revealing that FP4 format choice is a key factor that determines the ceiling on recoverable accuracy. Together, these results establish HiF4 as the enabling format for end-to-end FP4 RL post-training, and Rollout-ResQ as the activation-side mechanism that makes the gap to BF16 closable.