Instability of LLM Pre-Pretraining: It Doesn't Always Help. An Investigation on Multiple Languages

Pretraining LLMs on artificial languages ("pre-pretraining") is a technique that could reportedly increase token efficiency by 33%, i.e., save up to 33% of training tokens needed to reach a certain performance. We validate this prior result for English on a larger set of natural languages across four language families, using two different tokenizers and varying model sizes. We also relate the observed gains (or losses) in token efficiency to quantified linguistic properties of the languages, such as sentence length, morphological richness, and features of dependency syntactic trees (tree depth, number of children, number of crossing dependencies). Our empirical results indicate that the reported gains depend heavily on the experiment setup and the choice of random seed, although we can confirm the trend of stable gains with 128-Dyck pretraining of small models with the Llama tokenizer for most of the examined languages. On a general note, we argue that multiple training runs should be carried out at least for a subset of experiments to avoid the community adopting unstable approaches.

Logic Before Language: Pre-pretraining on Formal Derivations Fosters Skill Acquisition and Compressibility

Pre-pretraining language models (LMs) on symbolic data can accelerate and improve natural language acquisition. However, existing pre-pretraining tasks, such as Dyck and procedural algorithms, rely on narrow primitives that fail to capture the expressive capacity of natural language. Moreover, prior studies remain restricted to relatively small token budgets, offering limited insight into skill emergence and representational dynamics. To address these limitations, we propose logic pre-pretraining (Logic-PPT) as a principled initialization strategy, leveraging formal derivations to impart richer structural and linguistic biases. Formal derivations require abstract mechanisms that are central to natural language, simultaneously binding variables, connecting quantifiers and relational dependencies, and composing predicate-argument structures over long contexts. Scaling our evaluation to a 100B-token regime, logic pre-pretraining substantially accelerates skill acquisition in LMs, achieving 80\% accuracy on linguistic tasks with 36B fewer tokens than standard initialization, and outperforming alternative pre-pretraining baselines. Mechanistically, formal derivations induce persistent structural reorganization, distinctively characterized by a lower-rank, spectrally concentrated representation space. Crucially, we show that this internal geometry enables improved model compressibility via pruning, matching the dense baseline performance even at $\approx$33\% sparsity.