Is Next-Chunk Reasoning RL Really Better than SFT? Revisiting Training Strategies under no-CoT Data

Recent work proposes next-chunk reasoning RL for leveraging no-CoT data---corpora such as worked solutions and textbook derivations that contain reasoning-rich content but lack explicit chain-of-thought annotations. The method trains a model to generate implicit reasoning traces and rewards them by their ability to predict the next chunk of text. While promising, existing evaluations primarily compare against conventional SFT baselines, leaving open whether the gains come from the RL formulation itself or from more effectively exposing the model to no-CoT data. We address this question with a controlled study of next-chunk reasoning RL and a simple but previously overlooked alternative: Mixed SFT, a single supervised fine-tuning stage that jointly trains on no-CoT and long-CoT data. Despite its simplicity, Mixed SFT achieves a clearly higher post-RLVR performance ceiling than next-chunk reasoning RL while requiring over 60 times less training compute. The advantage is consistent across in-domain mathematical reasoning and out-of-domain reasoning tasks. Moreover, we show that higher pre-RLVR accuracy does not necessarily translate into higher post-RLVR accuracy, highlighting the need to evaluate no-CoT training strategies in the context of the full post-training pipeline.

LLMZero: Discovering Adaptive Training Strategies for RL Post-Training via LLM Agents

RL post-training strategies are dataset-dependent and reveal a recurring empirical pattern: capacity parameters accumulate monotonically across stages, while regularization parameters predominantly oscillate in response to shifting training dynamics. This distinction highlights a potential flaw in fixed training schedules: by forcing all parameters along rigid paths, they fail to capture the dynamic exploration-exploitation tradeoffs that regularization must track. We uncover this through LLMZero, an agentic system that optimizes training trajectories via tree search by diagnosing pathologies at each checkpoint and proposing coordinated multi-parameter transitions. Across four diverse GRPO tasks, LLMZero discovers strategies that improve over the base model by 9% to 140% and over grid search by 6% to 15% (relative), consistently outperforming random search and a skill-based agent under a matched compute budget. The capacity--regularization asymmetry is consistent across all four tasks, offering a candidate design heuristic for multi-stage training.