Fisher width measures the Gaussian width of a probe set after deformation by the local Fisher geometry. We study its evolution along learning trajectories and ask when training loss can serve as an effective coordinate for this quantity. We first derive an exact trace--shape factorization and a deterministic stability bound for fixed compact probes. In a population Gaussian-teacher logistic model, the teacher-aligned state is extremal on every loss level below $\log 2$: it has minimal parameter norm and maximizes both Fisher trace and Euclidean-ball Fisher width. We then show that population gradient flow asymptotically selects this branch, with explicit rates for the aligned and orthogonal coordinates. This yields, for $d\geq2$, \[ \frac{w_F(B_2^d;θ(t))} {\sqrt{L(θ(t))}} \longrightarrow \frac{\sqrt6}π\mathbb E[χ_{d-1}]. \] Controlled full-Fisher experiments support the matched-loss branch and the population predictions. In a nonlinear MLP with a diagonal model-Fisher approximation, GD and SGD remain close at matched loss, whereas Adam follows a substantially displaced branch; the fixed probes tested retain highly similar temporal shapes. These results support a branchwise, rather than universal, loss parametrization of Fisher width.
Training neural networks to jointly predict mean and uncertainty estimates from noisy observations can be unstable, prompting a series of independent stabilization efforts. We argue that these interventions highlight a common underlying issue where gradient steps are poorly aligned with the geometry of the loss landscape. To better align updates with local curvature, we derive Fisher8, an output-layer gradient correction that reorients and rescales updates using Fisher geometry rather than Euclidean geometry. Unlike past stabilizers, Fisher8 introduces no data-dependent hyperparameters beyond learning rate and admits an approximate KL trust radius between successive predictive distributions. We show that prior stabilizers converge on overlapping components of this geometric correction. Across multidimensional regression and representation-learning tasks, Fisher8 obtains superior likelihood--error tradeoffs, predicts calibrated uncertainty estimates, and learns rich uncertainty-aware feature spaces.