For scale-invariant deep networks, Hyperball-style optimizers have shown strong performance in large-scale training by fixing the norms of matrix-valued parameters and normalizing updates. However, the source of their advantage remains unclear. Starting from the angular displacement between consecutive parameter states, we derive an angular effective learning rate that accounts for the parameter-update angle, parameter norm, and update norm. We also show that the conventional norm-based measure is a special case under parameter-update orthogonality. We then decompose optimizer updates into radial and tangential components and analyze how radial updates affect one-step angular displacement. Under the training configurations considered, numerical results show that the radial component has only a limited direct effect on the angular effective learning rate. It therefore cannot explain why MuonH converges more slowly than MuonWD early in training but overtakes it later. To further isolate the underlying mechanism, we devise a heuristic experiment that modifies only the learning-rate schedule so that the dynamics of each optimizer reproduce those of the other. The results suggest that their main difference stems from the evolution of the effective step size rather than an intrinsically superior update direction induced by Hyperball. Our pretraining experiments further show that more aggressive learning-rate decay can accelerate MuonH early in training but may impair its later performance. Thus, maintaining a constant angular velocity does not eliminate the learning-rate-scheduling problem; careful scheduling remains essential to realizing the potential of Hyperball-style optimizers. Our code is publicly available at https://github.com/mangocrazz/hyperball-may-not-be-a-free-lunch.
Modern Transformer architectures frequently employ normalization mechanisms such as RMSNorm and Query-Key Normalization, making parts of the model approximately scale-invariant with respect to weight magnitudes. In this regime, standard Frobenius-norm weight decay acts purely along the radial direction of the weight space and cannot directly simplify the function represented by the normalized layer. We study grokking in small algorithmic tasks through this lens and propose \emph{Low-Rank Decay} (LRD), a nuclear-norm-like spectral regularizer whose subgradient -- the polar factor $UV^\top$ -- retains a tangential component even in the scale-invariant setting. This distinction has a concrete dynamical consequence: after the model memorizes the training set and task gradients vanish, L2 decay can no longer reshape the weight spectrum, whereas LRD continues to compress singular values in an $\ell_1$-like fashion. On modular arithmetic tasks, we find that LRD induces rapid effective-rank collapse in Query/Key matrices and expands the data-fraction boundary at which delayed generalization (grokking) occurs. We further provide a spectral-geometric interpretation through the ``needle-to-fan'' expansion of the nuclear-norm subdifferential near low-rank strata.